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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>Passive Aggressive Husband - Latest Comments</title><link xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="http://api.friendfeed.com/2008/03#sup" href="http://disqus.com/sup/all.sup#forumcomments-26b37cd1" type="application/json"/><link>http://passiveaggression.disqus.com/</link><description>Passive Aggressive Husband</description><atom:link href="http://passiveaggression.disqus.com/comments.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:52:44 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-391042177</link><description>Hi Goldy, So right you are and so true.  I never linked her issues to his PA until now, since I am reviewing the past in depth to get a better handle on everything and try and make sense out of the senseless.  I now believe her issues were caused by his PA.  I wish I could talk to her about this, but she would shoot me before I could say a word since she blames me for their marriage ending.  Little does she know that I actually did her a huge favor.  Not only does he remember things as he wants, but he also remembers things differently 2 seconds after they happen, with me there as a witness.  Unbelievable!  It is amazing to hear him recount a situation when I know the real details.  Sad too.  The one annoying thing that is still taking place is he is a major contrarian.  Drives me batty.  So much so that I avoid talking to him at all costs.  The negativity is gut wrenching.  Another item I have been thinking about is something I read in "Living with a PA Man".  It talked about the wife starting hobbies to escape.  It mentioned jewelry making.  Funny, I have been involved in antique doll collecting, jewelry making, miniatures for adult collectors and other crafts.  Why!  Because it gives me a time consuming outlet, allows me to attend shows out of town and be with "normal" people and I receive praise and compliments from others which is something I never receive at home.  He calls my products and trips a waste of time and money.  Only wants to know how much profit I made.  Never compliments the items, but quick to point out any flaw or correction that needs to be fixed.  Ugh!  Later, L.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Lyndsay</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:52:44 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-390972541</link><description>Hi Lyndsay:  I believe it's all related if you really think about it.  Panic attacks are really feeling "out of control". In a PA relationship, you have no control over anything. In a normal, loving marriage a loving spouse reponds w/love or kindness to the other spouse.  In a PA marriage, it's one spouse always doing for another; yet never getting anything positive back.  I've never had a "panic" attack; don't want one.  I do have a strong sense of "self" though thanks to my career along with handling all of our money management issues through out our marriage.  My husband wanted none of it.  I built 2 homes w/no input from him; wasn't interested.  So you see even though I got nothing from him emotionally, I as growing stronger by simply handling these major items by myself.  I did all the research &amp;amp; saw all projects to completion.  I really believe he had always hoped I would fail at something; I thank God that didn't happen.  Like I said, it was really a very lonely marriage.  I was always on my own; resulting in building a strong sense of self!  The book talks about "re-writing marriage memories"....my ex did this.  7 or 8 yrs. ago, he told me I didn't sub-contract out a vacation home we built.  I was shocked when he said this to me since the guys on the crew couldn't understand my ex's lack of interest.  I replyed to my spouse "and who did?" He now states he never said that, but the sad fact was he was "re-writing" our marital memories!  When I recently read "Why marriages Fail" this was one of the areas covered.  Luv, Goldy55</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Goldy55</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:08:59 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-390942059</link><description>Thanks Goldy.  Right now, I am taking day by day.  I believe eventually he will say something to the effect of "Well are you over being my friend and want to get back to normal" or "Have you gotten over being upset and put all that BS stuff about my being allergic to marriage behind you".  Because, if he does I promise all hell will break loose.  So, until then I just glide along with my day and stay out of the way.  No trust, no respect, no love, no passion, no security, no romance, no future just hour by hour of wondering when the next big change will happen.  Not a great way to live but at least we are civil to each other and no one in our public world is the wiser.  I am trying to work on dealing with the depression.  I just wish I could control the bouts better so my day is not spent in bed. Thanks for being there.  L</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Lyndsay</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:23:07 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-390928521</link><description>Hi Lyndsay:  I'm really happy for you; yet really sad too.  I was reading an article I took off the Internet last yr.  It was about a woman so depressed she spent the last 2 yrs. in bed.  One day, she realized "depression" is nothing more than denying "reality".  It's hoping, wishing etc. etc. things would be different, opposite of, "reality".  It still hurts &amp;amp; the depression doesn't just go away immediately, but when you really think about it denying reality is what we've been doing............for yrs.  The're jerks who aren't capable of caring for someone deeply.  Sure they can have a relationship, but it wasn't what I signed up for.  I realize my marriage did have some good by allowing me to get away from a disapproving mom.......allowing me the time to find a career passion.  I still had to come home from work though; never getting what I wanted or expected from my marriage.  My PA ex couldn't settle an arguement; right fighter.  He would get violent suddenly w/no warning.  Frightening, you bet!  I realize how lazy he really is!  All respects.  We have several real estate investments; he's walked away from it all.....yet by law he gets 50%.  His life!&lt;br&gt;I heard a good quote recently about forgiveness......it's giving up the hope the past could be any different!  Luv, Goldy55  PS  I only wish I could tell you how far people like this will go to destroy you, but I can't on this site!  It's really sick!</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Goldy55</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:03:03 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-390925272</link><description>Hi Goldy,  I've been meaning to ask.  Do you know if agoraphoia can be caused from living with a PA husband?  My husband's "X" developed panic attacks about 10 years into their marriage, that was eventually diagnosed as agoraphoia and as a result stopped driving and has not since 1984.  Her indentity was wrapped around his and she was a stay at home mom.  So, because she still does not know he is PA, I am wondering if her issues were caused by his PA personality?  Hugs, L</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Lyndsay</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:58:00 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-390874224</link><description>Hi Goldy,  I totally agree.  As I said, I knew something was wrong when I got back from the honeymoon and wondered where my wonderful finace' was and who was this man who called himself my husband.  The first time he yelled at me I thought I would die.  He is a master at never being at fault.  He twisted arguments and rehashed them until I had to apologize.  Our famous saying was "we are always walking on eggshells", my fault again.  So, the beginning of 2010 I took ill (surgery complication) and several issues became crystal clear.  The end of 2010 I dismissed a covert aggressive staffer of 10 years.  What a nightmare living through that was at work.  To get a handle on her and prepare for the process I read "In Sheep's Clothing".  In the section I read about "Passive Aggressive" light bulbs went off.  So, I read books about that problem.  By January 2011 I was ready to discuss this new information with hubby.  He listened, denied, never meant anything by it, will work on changing and would go to couple's counseling.  I found out that one cannot easily change how they are wired.  I did tell him I had to emotionally divorce him in order to stay.  He said that was fine.  By June, some improvement.  I was very detached.  By Sept. full relapse.  I told him I wanted out.  I went into "friends only" mode.  By Dec. I told him I am in and will remain in "friends only" mode and he must not think of me or treat me as a wife, since that is the reason we don't get a long.  He agreed.  That agreement has been in effect for 3 weeks and all is well.  However, alone I am still processing the past, present and future by myself.  That's why this site is a blessing.  Thanks, L</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Lyndsay</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:43:19 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-390777761</link><description>Lyndsay; new comment section is @ bottom of page</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Goldy55</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:33:32 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-390758658</link><description>I found everytime we replyed to each other the "reply box" got smaller &amp;amp; smaller - 1"....it's why I went to "Comment section". I'm replying in "reply now" must re-set it!  My ex's behavior got really bad especially the last 2 yrs.  I realize he felt something had changed w/me although I was still doing everything the same.  I had come to the realization I was finally getting out &amp;amp; no longer had the energy to go out of my way for him which is always the way it was.  He must have really sensed something was up, but didn't realize I had now emotionally completely checked out.....like a robot, I guess is the best way I could explain it.  There so selfish they feel they are loosing something, but all we're doing is acting the way they have treated us all of these yrs.  No longer the "fools" we had been!  Luv, Goldy55</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Goldy55</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:04:45 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-390318661</link><description>Hi Goldy,  Where is the new comment section?  I can't locate it to continue with our posts.  Yes, now it is strictly a business deal.  However, he is on his best behavior because he does not want me to leave.  I, on the other hand, still zig when he zags to be alone as much as possible.  I still have the blues over what I lost/that I never had.  Funny how that can make sense.  We found out his daughter is also PA.  Her husband of 2 yrs. has already left her twice and she has miscarried twice in addition.  Very sad!  L.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Lyndsay</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 20:44:14 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-389333036</link><description>Lyndsay:  I think so many women/men who are on this site come to realize it's the "covert" message they send over the yrs.  My husband is very funny, yet I've not seen him smile @ me in 20 yrs.  He can be a real joker w/everyone else.  He comes off as a great guy.  His idea of being funny w/me is through "sarcasm".  When my mom died 10 yrs. ago from Alzheimers, I was having a bad day;  he was complaining to me when I mentioned just having a rough day.  His reply "people die everyday, Goldy, "F" deal w/it".  This is the "real teddy" bear; the guy my mom adopted almost like her own.  She refused to talk to me about our problems after I divorced him/moved home telling me " I don't want to know I really like "ex".  Terrific!  I hope she's reeling in her grave right now!  The problem with PA is there are differing degrees of it; I'm sure you &amp;amp; I have developed our own PA issues to deal w/these guys.......that's what I didn't like about myself anymore.  Trust me the book will settle it for you even open your eyes even more.  I realized he was "re-writing" marriage memories which I didn't understand at the time........now I know how bad things truly were even when I was still trying to figure out a way to improve things..  My husband was shocked when I told him we were done.  It was the night before my daughter's graduation from the Naval Academy.  The look on his face was priceless!  I had waited 20 yrs to say that to him &amp;amp; it was worth every single second!  He would have lived the rest of our lives w/me as the status quo.............he had no intention of "having a wonderful life". Shortly after Dr. Phil came on the air he was doing a story on divorce &amp;amp; he said "you know when it's over because there's no emotion, no anger............it's strictly a business deal"......it was exactly how I felt!  Luv, Goldy55</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Goldy55</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:15:45 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-389324387</link><description>Lyndsay I'm going to reply in the new comment section.  I only have a 1" space not left to reply!  Website needs fixing!</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Goldy55</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:56:01 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-389077532</link><description>I just ordered the book on Amazon, thanks.  I am not sure if others had this problem, but one of the reasons I don't plan to try and rekindle the marriage is because I feel like I live with a 17 year old. As though emotionally, I am the only adult in the room.  I married at 18, divorced at 23, because he was too young for that type of committment.  Even though he wanted to get back together a year later.  At 25 my husband and I started a long distance romance that lasted until we married when I was 29.  The long distance part and the fact we married 3 mo after his divorce was final (in the courts for 3 years), now I believe that kept me at bay from his "true" personality.  He is 8 yrs. older than me.  We have no kids together.  Thankfully!  I am also curious if anyone else has the issue of their spouse with PA not having any sense of humor?  He is always very serious towards me, quick to find fault, likes to point out what needs to be done but won't do anything.  Will not make a decision about what restaurant we go to, ever.  Refers to other women he knows well as his "girlfriends" and loves to tell me about them even though I know for sure their relationships are platonic.  When his mom passed, his entire extended family stoped having anything to do with us.  Very odd!  He does not cheat, drink or do any drugs.  Very clean cut and by the book.  I have never been able to just relax and be myself in 25 years.  He always critques my behavior or actions.  If I was anything but 100% happy toward him, we had an issue.  It's like he cannot process conflict or negativity or even my having a bad day.  If I am ill, forget about it, he either tries to convince me I am really not that ill or he says he is now ill and can't help me recover.  However, in all fairness he has had to help me through some illnesses along the way, but afterward he was an absolute bear to live with.  I did ask him why he asks me what's wrong with a furrowed brow and turned down smile.  Not a warm fuzzy there.  About 6 mo. before we got married his mom asked me when I was going to move out so he could date others and hopefully marry someone with money.&lt;br&gt;Recently we were discussing the fact I tried to leave him 6 mo after we got married and he did and said everything he could to make me stay.  Then he admitted he really did not care if "I" left for not, he just did not want his "X" to say "I told you it wouldn't last".  I sure did not feel good after I heard that comment.  Thanks, L</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Lyndsay</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:39:57 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-388948737</link><description>Lyndsay there is a really good book I read last week!  I would like to suggest you get it, share it w/your husand or read it alone.  "Why marriages succeed or fail" (and how you can make yours last) by John Gottman, Ph.D. It was probably one of 20 books I read on the failure of my marriage.  I'm suggesting it because it also offers self-tests which help both you/him to see if there's still a chance to make this work. In my case there were no positives for staying; nada! The 'loneliness" was so deep I couldn't imagine living like that for even more one day.   Like Nora's site claims, there are ways to live w/this, but!  This book goes much more in-debth &amp;amp; I think you will either realize there might be something to fix or it's a done deal !  Gottman's 30+ yr. research on marriage has allowed him to predict w/94% accuracy which marriages won't make it, why/why not!  This is the book where I realized that there never was going to be a chance we could have made it.  I wish this book had been on the market 35 yrs. ago; it would have saved me so much hurt.  I will tie my daughter down to a chair &amp;amp; make her read it before she marry's anyone, litterally!  If he won't read it, I think you might find your answer.  PS  One book I read had 6 reasons listed why people get married, not one of them had "love" in the sentence; why I was so shocked I don't know....call me old fashion!</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Goldy55</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:20:16 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-388926324</link><description>Talk about coincidences!  My ex's father also very mean; I learned after marrying him, but not to me.  Since ex didn't seem to have any interest in his family which I didn't understand, I made a point of having his dad for dinner once a wk or so.  I was working full time, dad lived a mile or so away so would call him to drive up the nights I new I would be home earlier.  I also made ALL the attempts with his sisters throughout the marriage believing this is what one does when they marry into a family.  The last 3 home never made attempt to do anything w/dad........something I didn't get at the time.  We didn't have our daugher until we were married 10 yrs; I had divorced my ex once already 5 yrs. earlier due to his PA behavior.  Unfortuantely, I had to move home for a yr w/MOM because country was in a recession, at the time.  My Co. had put me on part-time (3 days) instead of full time; after selling house I moved back until economy got better.  After a yr. of his begging, pleading, crying &amp;amp; My MOM pressuring me again; I GAVE IN DESPITE MY DOUBTS.  Bingo, guess what......6 mo. back to same crap!  Like you said; some good times, but mostly not!  His Dad died 3 days after X-mas 1 yr.  I also did his X-mas cards including having him out for big dinner 2 wks before X-mas while we decorated tree w/our 2 yr. old.  He also spent every Thanksgiving &amp;amp; X-mas Eve w/us &amp;amp; my family.  Ex's sister had dad on X-mas eve last yr. for couple hrs. before my house; it was clear he wouldn't make it longer! Ex's dad was so mean to all kids by this time, they called my ex &amp;amp; said "you need to make sure dad showers 1x week;  he would take our daughter along to order him to shower!  He died 7 hrs. later that yr; he had developed severe dementia over a few months; he clearly needed a nursing home.............which I thank god we didn't have to go through!  I'll never be sorry I did what I did!</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Goldy55</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:15:01 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-388913283</link><description>cont.  I have read a lot about the symptoms and some apply to my situation.  I am going to list the ones I have lived with (before I put my foot down and said No More or I will leave).  1.  Will not start conversations unless it's about him or his interests.  2.  Ask for help and he gets upset or is allergic to whatever I ask.  3.  Hot tempered.  4.  I am an annoyance.  5.  When I talk his mind wanders away.  6.  He always wants me to apologize for the trivial things.  7.  Accuses me of "verbally attacking" if what I say is anything but positive.  8.  Wants an overabundance of praise and compliments.  9.  Wants thanks for even taking out the trash.  10.  I did not dare ask for help with household chores till we had been married almost 20 years.  to be con't.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Lyndsay</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:37:39 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-388908244</link><description>Hi Goldy,  Wow!  Thanks so much for sharing.  Interesting how having this connection allows me not only some peace, but also a great outlet to vent. When he was 13, my husband's father passed of a sudden heart attack at the age of 45.  His mother, 43, also a PA (along with 2 of her 5 sisters), went into a mean spirited depression and never remarried, she passed at 88 in 2006.  In the last 2 yrs. of her life, I was her helper (A-Z) while she was in assisted living.  He would not take care of anything for her.  They never got along.  Faked it at best.  L</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Lyndsay</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:24:21 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-388404018</link><description>Hi Lyndsay:  It's called "love".....you were in love.  Problem is PA people can't "love" they are broken inside.....something from childhood.  My husband's mom died at age 10, breast cancer, he was youngest of 5.  2 older girls were already married; out of the house.  They are normal; I get along great w/them.  The 3 who were home are screwed up royally.  Husband's older brother by 7 yrs. is on 4th divorce; he destroyed all 5 kids from lst 2 marriages.  Sister 3 yrs. older than ex is on Marriage #3; she's also I now realize nuts.  I don't get it.  I know it was tough, but I realize many people came to help w/kids after mom died, but they became narcissict expecting people to make them happy!  You have to understand all of this in order to heal &amp;amp; find a new healthy relationship, if you decide that's what you want in your life.  We also have one problem we were born with; we have somehow been able to deal with childhood issues to love again; they can't.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Goldy55</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:34:26 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-388377724</link><description>Hi Goldy55,  Thank you so very much for sharing this very very helpful information.  So far the reading I have done have given me pause after just about every paragraph as I see my life in the pages.  As for a divorce, when I mentioned it about 5 years ago, way before I had a clue of what the issues really meant, I was told "You can leave with what you came with, NOTHING."  &lt;br&gt;Interesting, my mom and I never got along either.  She is semi-narcissistic.    She wants me to stay with him because I send her a check every month to help out and she does not want that benefit to stop.  No, I don't have anyone to talk to that understands or even knows all the details.  I choke up when I think about sharing because I feel like the "stupid" one for getting into and staying in this marriage.  I will write more later.  Thanks, L</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Swe908 1981z</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:36:55 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-388216434</link><description>Hi Lyndsay:  I didn't read any of the books before he left; just ended up figuring it out.  After he left &amp;amp; I started to read, I was blown away literally as to "how I could have been such a fool".  I knew deep down almost from the start of our marriage that something was terribly wrong, but I never had any family support to get him out of my life; never said much anyways.   Now that I'm divorced, my sister still talks to him.  For some reason, they can't imagine a guy who looks &amp;amp; acts like a teddy bear, in front of them, as possibly doing some of the things I told them he did.  I'm past that though since Oprah said she literally had to clean out her life, family &amp;amp; friends, to keep focused.  I realize now how "F" dysfunctional my own family is. I love them, but I keep my distance.  You might really benefit from Oprah's fall program called "Life Classes".......they were just as good or better than a shrink.  You can still watch them @ her website.  They were for me the final piece of healing from this mess.  I still have issues going with this idiot, but the classes show you how to deal w/this from the inside out.  I found this site, Oprah &amp;amp; reading several of Dr. Gottman's books on marriage &amp;amp; relationships terrific.  I feel almost like a library on this topic, but it was best thing I've done for myself over the last 2 yrs going through this divorce.  The worst part is the damage to my daughter; I realize she is PA also.  I don't put up w/it though.  I call her out since I feel if I don't she will never have a decent relationship unless she recognizes what it is. Unfortunately, she is living in Okinawa now; I had planned on leaving as soon as she graduated.  My hope she wouldn't have been so affected by waiting was wrong.  Ex &amp;amp; daughter  are in China for X-mas; she suddenly adopted his "dislike" of X-mas several yrs. ago. My sister mentioned to me she had talked to my ex &amp;amp; asked if he was going to take X-mas cookies to our daughter (my sister is 27 yrs. older than me); mind you no one, including daughter, told me ex is going to spend X-mas in China w/daughter.......not my kid or ex.  Also, ex is suppose to be snow plowing............guess if I get a blizzard I'll be waiting until 12/28 to get drive-way cleared. Who does that......ruin X-mas for their kids. It was his lack of help, complaining about work for them that finally ruined them for her.  Mind he didn't do any of the work, just sat on couch, internet, probably porn too &amp;amp; complained if I asked for a minute of his  time. I love X-mas so last night I made cookies &amp;amp; gave most to the neighbors.He can't take that from me; don't let him take anything more from you! They can't stand to see you happy; they hate it.  I told my daughter to have a good time in China.  After thinking about it I decided to respect her wishes about X-mas  &amp;amp; decided not to send the Cookies &amp;amp; a few things I had bought for her. I'm not doing this because I want to be mean, but her &amp;amp; I have had several discussions the last few months about family &amp;amp; traditons &amp;amp; their importance in life.  I can't imagine where I went wrong on this one, but for some reason she no longer cares about any of it.  I thought I was being a good wife &amp;amp; parent by creating traditions when you start a family........somewhere I really feel I went wrong somewhere.  That's one that will haunt me for the ages..  Ex can't stand to see me happy or to do anything that makes me happy.  I really am enjoying this relationship now since I finally get it.Can't wait though for the day I don't have to have anything to do w/him, if that ever comes.  Oh Well, I have contact rarely which is still too much.  Makes him completely miserable by being my ol'e self, a glass 1/2 full, type of person.  He was always glass 1/2 empty. I get it now.  I can only imagine how hard it is to live w/this guy instead of being able to close the door behind you.  I suggest you make your long range plans even though I know how very hard it is when your living w/the neg. energy constantly.  I'll forewarn you w/the divorce..........he will make your life impossible.....drag it out as long as legally possible.  If you work for him; there's obviously ownership there(yours).  Quietly get some good legal advice NOW by a qualified Attorney to deal w/a business type divorce; not just anyone will do.  Also, they need to have domestic violence exper. since this is what we are talking about here....even if he isn't physical, yet.  There's no 50/50 w/these guys believe me.  Also make sure your prospective Attorn. doesn't take advantage of the fact you are coming from a DV situation &amp;amp; take advantage of you by dragging it out too,because of what you will be coming from........I am going through this right now w/mine.  I kept really good written records though; did most everything through email &amp;amp; KEPT THEM ALL FOR PROOF EXPECIALLY AFTER I FIGURED OUT WHAT ATTOR. WAS DOING.  (LONG STORY) The ol'e story of "knowledge is power" in the case of the PA it really, really is both for dealing/healing yourself &amp;amp; handling this yahoo!  Try to, if you can, calmly detach yourself from him over time.  Amazing how will find your earlier self; I haven't felt this good ever.  I was too young to realize how damaging these yahoo's are to your soul.  The funny thing in my case is, a few yrs. ago, I sought help from a Dr. who asked me to take a serious of tests, it didn't have anything to do w/my problem, but I consented.  The results showed I had an extremely "high IQ" which as I said to him at the time "great I'll tell my 16 yr. old daughter....she thinks her mom is a complete idiot".  Boy O' Boy, now I realize just how smart I really am.  I was so "in deep" w/this bad marriage that the bell still didn't really go off; I know I'm an intelligent women, but after all these yrs. frankly I didn't feel intelligent anymore.  Now when I deal w/my ex, I realize I'm always a step ahead of him.  It was God's little way of trying to get through to me, but I didn't see it at the time.  Watch out for these little "bits" that come your way........quite out of the blue.  I remember thinking, at the time, what does this have to do w/the issue I came for.  The Dr. was doing "research" of some type for a project.  God wanted me to know I still had power;of the mind!  Use it!  I'm telling you this now, knowing you still have a hard road ahead of you.  When I read your letter, I was there 2 yrs. ago, but you are already reading &amp;amp; understanding what you are going to have to do to move onto your real path in life.  You will get where I am at today.  I know it is far from easy......especially living w/him.  It sounds like you have someone to help you, if I'm reading the last few posts from Jmlebow.  I literally didn't have anyone.  My best friend of 36 yrs. had no idea what I was living under.  She has been a good friend; she also has the greatest husband who I've known just as long.  She really doesn't or comprehend how I could live so long, but she does get a lot of it.  I know there really is a God because, although I don't attend Church anymore,somehow as I review &amp;amp; discuss this w/myself............the answers always seem to come at the right time. I was thinking of leaving this site just because I feel good, but if my experience can help someone else w/this issue, I'll stay on.  Hope some of this helps. Also, one more thing, I finally now understand how I ended up getting involved w/him &amp;amp; staying with him.  My mom, I remember, was always disappointed w/me.  I didn't do extremely well in school &amp;amp; didn't like to read books very much.  I dropped out of College; always a disappointment to her.  I finally realize I stayed in a bad marriage due to this attitude; never feeling I did enough always felt like I disappointed him.  I was the best damn wife &amp;amp; mother you could be..................God told me when I learned my IQ.  I knew I was a good person, but didn't see what he wanted me to finally see............I was very intelligent.  My mom had to drop our of school in the 7th grade to work due to the depression &amp;amp; she absolutely loved to read!  See what we do to our kids?  Your Enough!  I had so much going in my career once I found my passion; I had other people constantly calling me or my boss wanting to steal me away.  I just didn't get it!</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Goldy55</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:26:04 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-387860227</link><description>Thanks for your comments.  I rely on books and reading posts to help me cope and find support.  I don't feel comfortable sharing the details with anyone I know.  Yes, I also feel my life has been wasted with him, although there were some great times and experiences, yet quickly extinguished by his covert abuse.  If I said "no more" I would be shown the door and the locks would be changed.  Not an option for me right now.  A couple years ago, during a conversation I made the comment; "Oh, he loves her, but he's not in love with her and my husband said "What's the difference".  Needless to say, my first thought was "oh oh".  Little did I know that he could not associate either option to me.  Now, I wonder why it took me so long to realize that. L</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Lyndsay</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:10:32 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-387853725</link><description>Thanks Nora.  I appreciate your help. JML</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">JML</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 02:49:55 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-387853452</link><description>Yup, it just happened again.  I wonder why the site keeps messing up?</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">JML</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 02:48:41 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-387853270</link><description>Thanks Goldy55.  I just put the email address and changed the guest spot to initials, but it posted the email name anyway.  I was just more surprised than anything.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">jml</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 02:47:54 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-387852641</link><description>The above post is about me, Lyndsay, not Jmlebow.  Sorry the wrong name has still not been corrected as she has asked.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Lyndsay</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 02:45:13 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Questions and Answers about Passive Aggressive behaviors</title><link>http://passiveaggressivehusband.com/questions-answers-passive-aggressive-behaviors/#comment-386845105</link><description>I hope to bring you some type of peace with this message.  The letters in your on screen name are meaningless to the rest of us; unless you feel they should mean something to me/us.  Frankly, I'm more confused as to why you feel you would be recognized........I simply can't make heads or tails out of what your concerned about.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Debbie</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:23:36 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
